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  • Name BEAUCHAMP, Payne de 
    Prefix Earl 
    Birth Abt 1085  Essex, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Death 1157  Bedfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    WAC 29 Nov 1933  MANTI Find all individuals with events at this location 
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    Father DE BEAUCHAMP, Sir Hugh III ,   b. Abt 1087, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this locationNormandy, Franced. Jul 1141, Bedford, Bedfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 54 years) 
    Mother TAILLEBOIS, Lady Adeliza Matilda ,   b. Abt 1044, Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this locationNormandie, Franced. 1130, Bedford, Bedfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 86 years) 
    Marriage Abt 1112  Bedfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F17474  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 VERE, Baroness Roheise de ,   b. Abt 1109, Hedenham, Norfolk, England Find all individuals with events at this locationHedenham, Norfolk, Englandd. 21 Oct 1166, Chicksands, Bedfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 57 years) 
    Children 1 son and 1 daughter 
    Family ID F21429  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 24 Jan 2022 

    Family 2 VERE, Countess Rohese de ,   b. 1114, Hedenham, Norfolk, England Find all individuals with events at this locationHedenham, Norfolk, Englandd. Aft 21 Oct 1166, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age > 52 years) 
    Marriage Abt 1146  Essex, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F15737  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
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    • Also Known As: "Payne /De Beauchamp/", "Of Bedford", "Peganus Beauchamp" Miles's brother and heir, Payn de Beauchamp (d. in or before 1155), was both outlived and overshadowed by his wife, Rohese [Rose] de Beauchamp (d. 1166). The daughter of Aubrey (II) de Vere (d. 1141), she had previously been married to the powerful Geoffrey de Mandeville, first earl of Essex (d. 1144). The connection between the two families remained close for some time, with the Beauchamps adopting a variation of the Mandeville arms. In common with most of their contemporaries the earlier Beauchamps had already made grants to religious houses, including St Albans and Bermondsey, but the Beauchamps' patronage of the church now moved onto a new plane with the foundation of a priory for Gilbertine nuns at Chicksands, Bedfordshire, c.1150. Although her husband, Payn, was associated with her in early charters, Rohese was always spoken of as the founder. … Rohese was also closely involved in the early stages of the foundation (c.1166) of Newnham Priory by her son Simon [ii] de Beauchamp (c.1145-1206/7). This conversion of the college of secular canons at St Paul's, Bedford, into a community of regular Augustinian canons was part of the widespread contemporary movement towards the regular monastic orders. … Simon was a generous patron of the church; he made several additions to Newnham's original endowment, and also made grants to Warden Abbey, Chicksands Priory, and the hospital of St John at Bedford.

      ayn DE BEAUCHAMP [2932]

      Born: , , England
      Marriage: Rohese DE VERE [2933] after 1144 in , , England
      Died: 1156, , , England
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      Source <http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3.htm#_Toc336074820>:
      "ROBERT de Beauchamp (-before 1130). ... m ---. The name of Robert´s wife is not known. Robert & his wife had two children: ...

      ii) PAYN de Beauchamp (-1156). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Lord of Bedford. "Paganus de Bellocampo et uxor eius Rohaisa comitissa" founded Chicksand priory, for the soul of "…Simonis de Bellocampo…", by undated charter dated to [1150]. "Ricardus de Bellocampo" donated "ecclesiam de Lamerseia" to Colne Priory, Essex, with the consent of "Adelinæ uxoris meæ", by undated charter, witnessed by "Pagano de Bellocampo, Stephano et Waltero de Bellocampo". "Paganum et comitissam Roheis…sponsa mea" donated property to Thorney Monastery, by undated charter witnessed by "dominella Elena…Ivo Taillebois…".

      m (after 1144) as her second husband, ROHESE de Vere, widow of GEOFFREY de Mandeville Earl of Essex , daughter of AUBREY de Vere, Chamberlain of England & his wife Adelisa de Clare ([1105/10]-after 1166, bur Chicksand Priory). "G de Magnavilla et Roeisa uxor eius" donated property to Hurley Priory, Berkshire by undated charter. "Paganus de Bellocampo et uxor eius Rohaisa comitissa" founded Chicksand priory, for the soul of "…Simonis de Bellocampo…", by undated charter dated to [1150]. "Paganum et comitissam Roheis…sponsa mea" donated property to Thorney Monastery, by undated charter witnessed by "dominella Elena…Ivo Taillebois…". A manuscript document narrating the foundation of Newenham Priory names "Paganus de Bello-campo" as its founder, his wife "Roisia", and their son "Simon de Bellocampo". Payn & his wife had [two] children:

      a) [HELEN

      b) SIMON de Beauchamp (-1207) ..."


      Payn married Rohese DE VERE [2933], daughter of Aubrey II DE VERE [1427] and Alice DE CLARE [1428], after 1144 in , , England. (Rohese DE VERE [2933] was born in 1105-1110 in , , England, died after 1166 in , , England and was buried in Chicksand Priory, Bedfordshire, England.)



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      Family of Payne of BEAUCHAMP and Rohese + of VERE
      Husband:Payne of BEAUCHAMP (1100-1157)
      Wife:Rohese + of VERE (1103-aft1166)
      Children:Beatrice + of BEAUCHAMP (1120- )
      Marriage1144
      Husband: Payne of BEAUCHAMP
      Name:Payne of BEAUCHAMP
      Sex:Male
      Father:Hugh + of BEAUCHAMP (1067-1141)
      Mother:Adeliza + Matilda TAILLEBOIS (1070- )
      Birth1100Hereford, Herefordshire, England
      Death1157 (age 56-57)
      Wife: Rohese + of VERE
      Name:Rohese + of VERE
      Sex:Female
      Father:Aubrey II of VERE (1082-1141)
      Mother:Adeliza of CLARE (1082-1163)
      Birth1103Hedingham, Essex, England
      OccupationCountess of Essex
      TitleCountess of Essex
      Deathaft 21 Oct 1166 (age 62-63)
      Child 1: Beatrice + of BEAUCHAMP
      Name:Beatrice + of BEAUCHAMP
      Sex:Female
      Spouse:Hugh + of MORVILLE (1128-1162)
      Birth1120Bedfordshire, England
      Note on Wife: Rohese + of VERE
      Rohese de Vere, countess of Essex (c. 1110-1167 or after) was daughter of Aubrey de Vere II and Adeliza/Alice of Clare. She married twice. Her first husband, Geoffrey de Mandeville, 1st Earl of Essex, became earl in 1140, and Rohese thereafter was styled countess. The couple had at least three children: Geoffrey III, 2nd Earl of Essex, William de Mandeville, 3rd Earl of Essex, and Robert. The first two became earls of Essex. Her husband Earl Geoffrey rebelled against King Stephen in late 1143. Rohese's whereabouts are unknown; their eldest son seems to have been sent to Devizes, a stronghold of the supporters of the Empress Matilda. When Earl Geoffrey died an excommunicate rebel in 1144, his widow remarried swiftly. Her second husband, Payn de Beauchamp, lord of Bedford, had opposed King Stephen earlier in the reign. The couple founded a double monastery at Chicksands, Bedfordshire, for nuns and canons of the Gilbertine Order. They had one son, Simon de Beauchamp II. The countess was widowed a second time in 1155 or 1156. She gained the guardianship of her minor son. When he was near his majority, Countess Rohese worked with Simon to convert the secular canons of St. Paul's, Bedford, to regular canons and moved them to Newnham, Bedfordshire.

      According to the Walden Chronicle, when the countess's eldest son, Geoffrey de Mandeville III, earl of Essex, died in 1166, Countess Rohese was at Chicksands Priory enjoying a visit by her sister Alice of Essex. One member of the entourage who was escorting the earl's body to Walden Abbey, founded by her first husband, rode to Chicksands and informed Rohese of her son's death. He suggested that she send knights to seize the earl's body for burial at Chicksands. She rejected that suggestion, but when she later attended her son's funeral at Walden, she did seize the altar goods and other objects that her son had given to Walden and gave them to Chicksands Priory.

      The countess almost certainly spent the remainder of her life at Chicksands, although probably without joining the religious community as a nun. She witnessed a charter of her son Earl William in 1170, the last evidence of her life which can be dated, and when she died she was buried in the Chicksands chapter house.[1]

      She is sometimes confused with another, contemporary 'Countess Rohese,' who was the wife of Gilbert de Gant, Earl of Lincoln. While Earl Geoffrey's eldest son Ernulf de Mandeville is sometimes listed as the child of Countess Rohese, there is strong evidence that he was the earl's illegitimate son, born before Geoffrey's marriage to Rohese.