PONTHIEU, Count Jean

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• Name	PONTHIEU, Jean
  Prefix	Count
  Birth	Abt 1135	Montreuil, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France
  Gender	Male
  Death	30 Jun 1191	Acre, Palestine
  Burial	Jul 1191	Abbey of Saint-Josse-au-Bois, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France
  WAC	14 May 1994	SEATT
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  Person ID	I47008	Joseph Smith Sr and Lucy Mack Smith
  Last Modified	19 Aug 2021

  
  

  Father	PONTHIEU, Count Guy ,   b. 1115, Ponthieu, Somme, Picardie, France Ponthieu, Somme, Picardie, Franced. 25 Dec 1147, İzmir, Turkey (Age 32 years)
  Mother	ST POL, Countess Ida de ,   b. 1115, Saint-Pol, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France Saint-Pol, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, Franced. 10 Jul 1178, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France (Age 63 years)
  Marriage	Bef 1135
  Family ID	F24396	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	ST POL, Beatrice de ,   b. Abt 1135, Saint-Pol, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France Saint-Pol, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, Franced. 1204, Thézillieu, Ain, Rhône-Alpes, France (Age 69 years)
  Marriage	Bef 1179
  Children	+ 1. PONTHIEU, Count William de III ,   b. 1179, Ponthieu, Ain, France Ponthieu, Ain, Franced. 4 Oct 1221, France (Age 42 years)
  Family ID	F24392	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	24 Jan 2022

  
  

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  BIO: Count of Ponthiu and Montreuil, 1171. Fought in wars against the English; Crusader; died on the 3rd Crusade. ** from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#AdelaPonthieudied1241MThomasStValery JEAN [I] de Ponthieu (-Acre 30 Jun 1191). "Wido comes Pontivii" confirmed freedoms over his lands, with the consent of "patris mei Willermi et domine Ele matris mee, fratris mei Johannis et uxoris mee Ide et filii mei Johannis" by undated charter[1043]. He succeeded his father as Comte de Ponthieu. "Jean comte de Ponthieu" founded l´Hôtel-Dieu d´Abbeville by charter dated 1158, witnessed by "Ide comtesse…"[1044]. Robert of Torigny records that Henry II King of England granted "castrum Alenceium et Rocam Mabiriæ" to "Willermus Talavacius comes Sagiensis et filius eius Johannes et iterum Johannes nepos eius filius Guidonis primogeniti sui comitis Pontivi" in 1166[1045]. Robert of Torigny records the death in 1171 of "Guillermus Talavercius comes Pontivi" and the succession of "Johannes nepos suus…ex Guidone primogenitor suo"[1046]. "Jean comte de Ponthieu, Guillaume son fils, et Beatrix son épouse" granted revenues to "Baudin et Simon son frère…" by charter dated 1186[1047]. m firstly (after 1158) MATHILDE, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. 1162. m secondly (after 1162 [repudiated, before 1170]) [as her first husband,] LAURE de Saint-Valéry, daughter of RENAUD de Saint-Valéry & his [second] wife ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. Domesday Descendants records that Renaud de Saint-Valéry was the father of "Laura wife first of John count of Ponthieu, by whom she was repudiated, and secondly of Alleaume de Fontaines", but does not cite the corresponding primary sources[1048]. [She married secondly Alleaume de Fontaines.] m thirdly (before 4 Dec 1170) BEATRIX de Saint-Pol, daughter of ANSELME "Candavène" Seigneur de Lucheux et de Tarentefirt [later Comte de Saint-Pol] & his first wife --- (-1202 or after). "Johannes comes Pontivi" confirmed rights of the monks of Val, with the consent of "Guidonis fratris mei et Beatricis comitisse uxoris mee", by charter dated 1177, which also names "mater mea Ida comitissa"[1049]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. "Jean comte de Ponthieu, Guillaume son fils, et Beatrix son épouse" granted revenues to "Baudin et Simon son frère…" by charter dated 1186[1050]. Comte Jean [I] & his third wife had [four] children... ** from Wikipedia listing for John I of Ponthieu John I of Ponthieu (c. 1140–1191) was the son of Guy II of Ponthieu and succeeded him as Count of Ponthieu in 1147. He married Beatrice of Saint-Pol, and was succeeded by his son William IV Talvas.