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  • Name MEISSEN, Konrad Der Grose 
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    Birth 1098  Meissen, Dresden, Saxony, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Burial Feb 1157  Klosterhauser, Saxony, Prussia, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Death 5 Feb 1157  Klosterhauser, Saxony, Prussia, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    WAC 10 Nov 1939  SLAKE Find all individuals with events at this location 
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    Father WETTIN, Count Thimo ,   b. Abt 1072, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationGermanyd. 1118 (Age 46 years) 
    Mother BAVARIA, Princess Ida ,   b. Abt 1076, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationGermany 
    Family ID F24778  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family SWABIA, Countess Luitgard ,   b. Abt 1100, Schwaben, Bavaria, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationSchwaben, Bavaria, Germanyd. 19 Jun 1145, Kloster, Gerbstedt, Sachsen, Prussia Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 45 years) 
    Marriage 1116/1119 
    Children 7 sons and 6 daughters 
    Family ID F24774  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 24 Jan 2022 

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    • BIO: Count of Brehna and Camburg, bef 1116; Markgraf of Meissen, 1123; and Lausitz, 1136; Count of the Groitsch-Rochlitz, 1143.

      ** from Royalty for Commoners, 4th Ed, p ?--
      ...divided his lands in 1156 among his five sons and became a monk in the monestery of Petersburg near Halle; buried at Petersburg Monestery.

      ** from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#DedoVdied1190A
      KONRAD [I] von Wettin "der Grosse", son of THIMO Graf von Brehna & his wife Ida von Northeim ([1097/98]-Kloster Petersberg 5 Feb 1157, bur Kloster Petersberg). The Annales Magdeburgenses name "Dedum comitem et Cuonradum marchionem" as the two sons of "Thiemoni comiti de Witin" and his wife Ida von Northeim[309]. The Genealogica Wettinensis names "Dedonem comitem et Conradum et filiam nomine Machthildem" as the children of "Thiemo comes" & his wife[310]. Graf von Wettin. Graf von Brehna und Camburg before 1116. Graf von Eilenburg 1123. Lothar von Süpplingenburg Duke of Saxony appointed Konrad as KONRAD Markgraf von Meissen in 1123, challenging the rights of Emperor Heinrich V, who had appointed Wiprecht von Groitsch as Markgraf[311]. Markgraf der Ober- und Niederlausitz mit Gau Nisani in 1136. Graf von Groitzsch und Rochlitz, Vogt von Kloster Chemnitz 1143. Vogt of Naumburg cathedral. Founder of St Peter auf dem Lauterberg (Petersberg). He abdicated and retired to Kloster Petersberg 30 Nov 1156. The Annales Erphesfurdenses record the death in 1157 of "Counradus marchio"[312]. The Chronicon Montis Serreni records his death "1157 Non Feb" aged 59, specifying his burial "in medio ecclesie, in dextera ipsius uxor eius [et] soror eius Machtildis"[313].

      m (before 1119) LUITGARD von Elchingen, daughter of ADALBERT Graf von Elchingen-Ravenstein & his wife Bertha --- (-Kloster Gerbstedt 19 Jun 1145, bur Kloster Gerbstedt). The Chronicon Montis Serreni names "Lucardis filia Alberti nobilissimi de Suevia" as wife of "Conradus comes de Witin"[314]. The Genealogica Wettinensis names "Lucardem filiam cuiusdam nobilissimi de Suevia nomine Alberti" as wife of "Conradus Misnensis et Orientalius marchio [filius Thiemonis]"[315]. The Annales Magdaburgenses record the death in 1145 of "Luthgart marchionissa"[316].

      ** from Wikipedia listing for Conrad, Margrave of Meissen, as of 10/13/2014
      Conrad the Great (c. 1097 – 5 February 1157) was the Margrave of Meissen from 1123 until his retirement in 1156. He was the son of Thimo, Count of Brehna, of the House of Wettin and Ida, daughter of Otto of Nordheim. He was also Count of Wettin, Brehna, and Camburg from before 1116.

      In 1123, he became Count of Eilenburg. That same year, Lothair of Supplinburg, Duke of Saxony, appointed him Margrave of Meissen in opposition to Wiprecht von Groitzsch, the appointee of the Emperor Henry V. Lothair also named Albert the Bear Margrave of Lusatia, while Henry named Wiprecht to that march also. Wiprecht was unable to hold his own against his two opponents and in 1124 Conrad was securely in power in Meissen. In 1136, Lothair, then emperor, appointed him to Lusatia as well. Thereafter, Upper Lusatia remained a part of Meissen and the march of Lusatia was reduced to Lower Lusatia alone.

      In 1143, Conrad became Count of Groitzsch and Rochlitz and Vogt of Chemnitz and Naumburg. In 1147, while Conrad III of Germany was away on the Second Crusade, Conrad the Great joined Henry the Lion, Adalbert of Salzwedel, Albert the Bear, and the Archbishops of Magdeburg and Bremen to organise a Crusade against the Obodrites and Wagri. In August, Conrad and Albert, with the bishops of Magdeburg, Havelburg, and Brandenburg, massed their forces at Magdeburg. The Obodrite prince Niklot and his fortressess of Dubin and Dimin were besieged. Both he and Pribislav, another Obodrite prince, were forced to accept Christianity and make peace.

      In the following years, he founded the monastery of St Peter auf dem Lauterberg (Petersberg), to which he retired on 30 November 1156. He died and was buried there next to his wife, Luitgard (Lucarda) of Elchingen-Ravenstein, daughter of Adalbert, Count of Elchingen-Ravenstein and Bertha of Hohenstaufen, daughter of Frederick I, Duke of Swabia and Agnes of Germany.

      Marriage and issue
      Luitgard of Elchingen-Ravenstein, whom he had married before 1119, had blessed him with many children. His eldest surviving son, Otto II, Margrave of Meissen, succeeded him in Meissen, while his second surviving son, Dietrich I, succeeded in Lusatia. His son Henry I, Count of Wettin married Sophia of Sommerschenburg, Countess Palatine of Saxony, daughter of Count Fredrick II of Sommerschenburg and Countess Liutgard of Stade, queen dowager of Denmark.

      His issue were:
      Heinrich (i.e. Henry; died young)
      Otto II
      Dietrich I
      Dedi III, Margrave of Lusatia
      Henry I, Count of Wettin, married (1) Sophia of Sommerschenburg (d. 1189 or 1190), daughter of Count Fredrick II of Sommerschenburg, Count Palatine of Saxony and his wife Countess Liutgard of Stade (later queen of Denmark).
      Frederick I of Brehna
      Oda
      Adela, Queen consort of Denmark
      Bertha
      Sophie
      Gertrud
      Agnes II, Princess-Abbess of Quedlinburg

      References
      Thompson, James Westfall. Feudal Germany, Volume II. New York: Frederick Ungar Publishing Co., 1928.

      Conrad, the Great (c. 1097 – 5 February 1157) was the Margrave of Meissen from 1123 until his retirement in 1156. He was the son of Thimo I, Count of Wettin, Count of Brehna, of the House of Wettin and Ida, daughter of Otto of Nordheim. He was also Count of Wettin, Brehna and Camburg from before 1116.
      In 1123, he became Count of Eilenburg. That same year, Lothair of Supplinburg, Duke of Saxony, appointed him Margrave of Meissen in opposition to Wiprecht von Groitzsch, the appointee of the Emperor Henry V. Lothair also named Albert the Bear Margrave of Lusatia, while Henry named Wiprecht to that march also. Wiprecht was unable to hold his own against his two opponents and in 1124 Conrad was securely in power in Meissen. In 1136, Lothair, then emperor, appointed him to Lusatia as well. Thereafter, Upper Lusatia remained a part of Meissen and the march of Lusatia was reduced to Lower Lusatia alone.
      In 1143, Conrad became Count of Groitzsch and Rochlitz and Vogt of Chemnitz and Naumburg. In 1147, while Conrad III of Germany was away on the Second Crusade, Conrad the Great joined Henry the Lion, Adalbert of Salzwedel, Albert the Bear, and the Archbishops of Magdeburg and Bremen to organise a Crusade against the Obodrites and Wagri. In August, Conrad and Albert, with the bishops of Magdeburg, Havelburg, and Brandenburg, massed their forces at Magdeburg. The Obodrite prince Niklot and his fortresses of Dubin and Dimin were besieged. Both he and Pribislav, another Obodrite prince, were forced to accept Christianity and make peace.
      In the following years, he founded the monastery of St Peter auf dem Lauterberg (Petersberg), to which he retired on 30 November 1156. He died and was buried there next to his wife, Luitgard (Lucarda) of Elchingen-Ravenstein, daughter of Adalbert, Count of Elchingen-Ravenstein and Bertha of Hohenstaufen, daughter of Frederick I, Duke of Swabia and Agnes of Germany.