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  • Name FITZJOHN, Payn 
    Birth Abt 1086  Harrold, Bedfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Burial Jul 1137 
    Death 10 Jul 1137  Ewias, Hertsfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
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    Father FITZ-NIGEL, Sir John Monoculus ,   b. 1090, Knaresborough, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationKnaresborough, Yorkshire, Englandd. 1138, Knaresborough, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 48 years) 
    Mother DEBLOIS, Magdalen Cecily ,   b. 1054, Blois, Orleannais, West Francia (now Centre, France) Find all individuals with events at this locationBlois, Orleannais, West Francia (now Centred. 1100, Saxlingham, Norfolkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 46 years) 
    Marriage 1110  Knaresborough, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
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    Family TALBOT, Sibyl  
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    • He was perhaps the eldest son of John, nephew of Waleram, also known as John fitz Richard, and the grandson of a moneyer who held a mill in the Avranchin. He shared two characteristics with several other of the ‘new men’ who served Henry I: a link with western Normandy and the status of an inferior tenant-in-chief—in 1086 his father held only a few estates in Norfolk and Essex. His brother Eustace fitz John (d. 1157) was drawn by marriage to northern England; for the same reason Pain was attracted to the west midlands.
      Following King Henry's death Pain was present at his funeral: he declared early for Stephen and witnessed the royal charter of concessions given at Oxford in April 1136. But the Welsh—, perhaps those who had moved on Caus—, drew him back to the border and to his death. On 10 July 1137 he was killed in an ambush while pursuing a raiding party: a missile split his head open and he was buried in Gloucester Abbey. Pain left no son but he had two daughters, Cecily and Agnes, who between them had five husbands. Cecily was married first (in 1137) to Roger, the son of Miles of Gloucester, but Pain's acquisitions did not descend as an entity. In Shropshire his role as a border administrator and guardian was assumed by the Fitzalans and then the Lestranges.

      ---

      PAYN FITZJOHN, probably 1st son and heir, was born before 1100. He was one of those minor barons who rose to importance and wealth as officers of Henry I, and from 1120 or earlier he constantly attests royal charters. In 1126 he became the King's vice-gerent in the palatine county of Shropshire. In 1130 he was acting as a Justice in cos. Stafford, Gloucester and Northants, usually in conjunction with Miles of Gloucester. He is said to have built Pain's Castle, co. Radnor; and in 1134 the Welsh burnt his castle of Caus, Salop, and slew all its inmates. At the death of Henry I he was vice-gerent of cos. Hereford and Salop; and he and Miles abovenamed, who ruled co. Gloucester, had extended their power over the Marches from the Severn to the sea. With other officers of the late King they would not go to court without a safe-conduct, fearing that they might be forced to disgorge the wealth which they had accumulated. Eventually they joined Stephen at Reading for the late King's funeral in January 1135/6. At Easter Payn was with Stephen at Westminster and he proceeded with the King to Oxford.
      He married Sibyl, daughter of Geoffrey TALBOT, by Agnes, probably daughter of Walter DE LACY. Payn gave Sibyl as dower land from his own inheritance. He was killed when pursuing Welsh marauders by a javelin which pierced his head, and so died s.p.m. 10 July 1137 and was buried in the chapter-house of Gloucester Abbey. Sibyl survived him (j). [Complete Peerage XII/2:270-1, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
      (j) Shortly after her husband's death the Bishop of Salisbury, as Chief Justiciar, ordered her to restore the property of her late husband removed by her since the confirmation of his possessions to their elder daughter, Cecily and her husband Roger, son of Miles de Gloucester, in particular the wheat, hay and wine. As Sybil de Lacy, for her soul and for the soul of her lord Pay FitzJohn, she confirmed a grant to her uncle, Walter de Lacy, Abbot of Gloucester.

      BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3T-Z.htm#AgnesVesciMRogerValognes
      PAYN FitzJohn of Ewyas, Herefordshire (before 1100-killed 10 Jul 1137, bur Gloucester Abbey). "…Pag fil Johis…" subscribed the charter dated to [10 Apr/29 May] 1121 which records the arrangements for the marriage of "Miloni de Gloec" and "Sibilia filia Beorndi de Novo Mercato"[768]. "…Pag fil Johis…" subscribed the charter date [3/10] Jun 1123 under which Henry I King of England granted the lands of "Edrici fil Chetelli" to "Walto de Gloec"[769]. A charter of King Henry I dated 1133 is witnessed by Payn FitzJohn, Eustache and William his brothers[770]. Sheriff of Hereford and Shropshire. The Gesta Stephani Regis records that "Paganus filius Joannis…et Milo" were killed, dated to [1137/40][771].

      m SIBYLLA de Lacy, daughter of GEOFFREY Talbot & his wife Agnes [de Lacy] (-after 1138). King Stephen confirmed to The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. “Sibilla de Lacy” notified her bailiffs and foresters that she had donated “land of Leghe near the church of St Michael” to “my uncle Walter abbot of Gloucester”, for the souls of “myself and my husband Payne Fitz-john”, by charter dated to [1130/39][772]. "Rogo filio Milonis Gloec et Cecilie uxori sue filie Pag fil Johis" the lands of her father, including land which "Pag dedit Sibille uxoris sue in dote", by charter dated to [Dec 1137/May 1138][773]. Roger Bishop of Salisbury instructed "Sibille q fuit uxor Pag fil Johis" to restore property which her husband had granted to "Rogo fil Milon Gloec cum Cecilia filia tua p-mogenita" by charter dated 1138[774]. Payn & his wife had two children...

      ** from Complete Peerage, vol 12, pt 2, pp 270+
      Vescy. Payn FitzJohn, probably first son and heir, was born before 1100. He was one of those minor barons who rose to importance and wealth as officers of Henry I, and from 1120 or earlier he constantly attests royal charters. In 1126 he became the King's vice-gerent in the palatine county of Shropshire. In 1130 he was acting as a justice in cos. Stafford, Gloucester and Northants, usually in conjunction with Miles of Gloucester. He is said to have built Pain's Castle, co. Radnor; and in 1134 the Welsh burnt his castle of Caus, Salop, and slew all its inmates. At the death of Henry I he was vice-regent of cos. Hereford and Salop; and he and Miles abovenamed, who ruled co. Gloucester, had extended their power over the Marches from the Severn to the sea. With other officers of the late King they would not go to court without a safe-conduct, fearing that they might be foreced to disgorge the wealth which they had accumulated. Eventually they joined Stephen at Reading for the late King's funeral in Jan. 1135/6. At Easter Payn was with Stephen at Westminster and he proceeded with the King to Oxford.

      He married Sibyl, daughter of Geoffrey Talbot, by Agnes, probably daughter of Walter de Lacy. Payn gave Sibyl as dower land from his own inheritance. He was killed when pursuing Welsh marauders by a javelin which pierced his head (there may have been an ambush), and so died s.p.m. 10 July 1137 and was buried in the chapter-house of Gloucester Abbey. Sibyl survived him.

      ** from Wikipedia listing for Pain fitzJohn, as of 10/21/2014
      Pain fitzJohn (sometimes Payn fitzJohn,[3] Payn FitzJohn,[4] or Pagan fitzJohn;[5] died 1137) was an Anglo-Norman nobleman and administrator, one of King Henry I of England's "new men", who owed their positions and wealth to the king. Pain's family originated in Normandy, but there is little to suggest that he had many ties there, and he appears to have spent most of his career in England and the Welsh Marches. A son of a minor nobleman, he rose through ability to become an important royal official during Henry's reign. In 1115 he was rewarded with marriage to an heiress, thereby gaining control of the town of Ludlow and its castle, which he augmented with further acquisitions.

      Although later medieval traditions described Pain as a chamberlain to King Henry, that position is not securely confirmed in contemporary records. He did hold other offices though, including that of sheriff in two counties near the border between England and Wales. In his capacity as a royal justice Pain also heard legal cases for the king throughout much of western England.

      After King Henry's death in 1135 Pain supported Henry's nephew, King Stephen, and was with the new king throughout 1136. In July 1137 Pain was ambushed by the Welsh and killed as he was leading a relief expedition to the garrison at Carmarthen. His heirs were his daughters, Cecily and Agnes. Cecily married the son of one of Pain's close associates, Miles of Gloucester. Pain was generous in his gifts of land to a number of monastic houses.

      Family background
      Pain was a son, likely the eldest, of John fitzRichard,[a] a tenant-in-chief listed in Domesday Book.[7][b] John may have had two wives, therefore the identity of Pain's mother is uncertain.[9] On the basis of landholding, it has been speculated that Pain's mother was a daughter of Ralph Mortimer, who held Wigmore in Domesday Book.[10][c] As well as being a moneyer, Pain's paternal grandfather, who came from near Avranches in Normandy, owned a mill.[d] Pain's brother, Eustace fitzJohn, became a royal official who owned lands in the north of England.[13] His other siblings included William, Alice and Agnes.[9] William was probably the same William who later held Harptree in Somerset,[14] and in 1130 was a royal justice in western England.[15] Alice was the abbess of Barking Abbey and Agnes became the wife of Roger de Valognes.[9]

      Pain was born some time before 1100.[3] His father may have been in the service of King Henry in Normandy before Henry became king. The family lands in England, which were not extensive, were mainly in East Anglia,[16] and Pain appears to have inherited most of them; his payment for danegeld, a tax, in 1130 for his East Anglian properties was 40 shillings, compared to only 9 shillings for his brother Eustace.[17][e][f]

      Marriage and lands
      All accounts agree that Pain married in 1115 and that his wife was named Sybil, although the identity of Sybil's parents is unclear. Pain's Oxford Dictionary of National Biography entry states that he married Sybil Talbot, the niece of Hugh de Lacy.[13] The Complete Peerage states that he married Sybil, the daughter of Geoffrey Talbot and Talbot's wife Agnes, who was herself probably the daughter of Walter de Lacy.[3] The historian K. S. B. Keats-Rohan states that Pain married Sybil de Lacy, the daughter of Hugh de Lacy,[5] a view shared by fellow historians Judith Green and Paul Dalton.[15][20][g] Others such as Bruce Coplestone-Crow and David Crouch agree with the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography '​s designation of Sybil as Hugh's niece,[23] and daughter of Geoffrey Talbot and Agnes, the sister of Hugh de Lacy.[16][24]

      King Henry and King Stephen recognized Pain as the legitimate holder of the lands acquired through his wife Sybil. Her kinsman Gilbert de Lacy was the son of Roger de Lacy, who had been banished from England in 1095 and his English estates confiscated; he had though retained his properties in Normandy. Roger's English possessions were given to his brother Hugh de Lacy, from whom Sybil had inherited them. On Roger's death Gilbert inherited the lands in Normandy, and pressed his claim to the family's former English estates. Coplestone-Crow speculates that the uncertainty hanging over the inheritance was one reason why Pain endeavoured to secure more lands around Ludlow.[25]

      Pain is the presumed builder of Pain's Castle in the Welsh county of Radnor. He also controlled Caus Castle in Shropshire,[3] and through his wife Ludlow Castle in the same county.[26] Although he held the title to Weobley Castle,[23] he does not appear to have exercised any control over it, which eventually went to Gilbert de Lacy.[27] Pain was not the only recipient of Hugh de Lacy's lands; some went to Jocelin de Dinan and some to Miles of Gloucester.[21] Pain's share included property in Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, and Worcestershire,[22] and he succeeded in acquiring additional lands near Ludlow, adding to the manors he held there through his wife;[28] his holdings of land were considered to be worth 17 knights fees.[29] By 1130 he had evidently acquired additional properties in Oxfordshire, where he is recorded as being excused payment of danegeld that year.[30]

      Career
      Under Henry I
      Pain was too young to serve King William Rufus, but according to the later 12th-century writings of Walter Map he may have been a chamberlain—one of the officials in charge of the royal household—for William's brother, King Henry I (reigned 1100–1135). There is no contemporary evidence for Pain having held that office and nor is it likely, given Map's story, that Pain was involved with Henry's financial affairs; rather it appears that if indeed he was a chamberlain, he was a body servant.[13] Map relates a story about Pain serving the king personally at night, providing Henry with wine if the king called for it. The story continues that Pain once drank the wine and was caught out by Henry when the king subsequently demanded his nightcap. Map finishes the story by saying that the king then ordered that Pain should be given wine every night while awaiting the king's pleasure. Although the story is unlikely to be true in all details, it suggests that Pain's service to the king was personal as well as judicial and governmental.[31] Other evidence against Map's claim that Pain was a chamberlain is that he never attested a royal charter in that office.[32]

      The author of the Gesta Stephani described Pain as having been a page at Henry's court, stating that he owed his position to being one of the "special and very intimate friends of King Henry" and that although Pain had been "taken into [Henry's] service as [one of his] court pages",[33] it appears likely that the three fitzJohn brothers—Pain, Eustace and William—worked to advance each other's careers, as they are frequently found witnessing, or attesting, the same charters and other royal documents.[34]

      In 1115, Pain was a witness to a charter of confirmation that King Henry issued to Geoffrey de Clive, the Bishop of Hereford, issued in the Welsh Marches.[20] Sometime between 1123 and 1127 he was appointed Sheriff of Herefordshire, and in 1127 became Sheriff of Shropshire also.[13] He held the sheriffdoms of Hereford and Shropshire at least until 1136,[1] and probably until his death.[16] Pain is also often termed the king's "viceregent" or "justiciar" for those counties,[13][30] and he had the custody of King Henry's prisoner, Waleran of Melun, from September 1126 until late 1126, when Waleran was moved to Wallingford Castle and the custody of Brian fitzCount.[35][h]

      Pain was one of Henry's "new men", who owed their positions and wealth to the king. The medieval writer Orderic Vitalis described them as a group as "of base stock who had served him [Henry] well, raised them, so to say, from the dust" and that the king "stationed them above earls and famous castellans".[i][37] Although Orderic stated that the families of these men were not considered high status, this likely was an exaggeration on the chronicler's part. Pain's family was respectable enough, as his father held a number of properties directly from the king.[38] It appears that Pain did not always take the king's side; the historian C. Warren Hollister has argued that Pain was not among the supporters of Henry's only surviving legitimate child, Matilda, in 1126, when Henry had his nobility swear that they would recognise her as his heiress. Hollister feels that the removal of Waleran from Pain's custody was a sign that Pain had not supported Matilda.[39]

      Pain consolidated much of his power in Shropshire and Herefordshire at Bridgnorth Castle, often using that site as a place of business in preference to Shrewsbury, which had previously been the main centre of business for his predecessors as sheriff. As well as Waleran, Pain imprisoned a Welsh hostage there in 1128, Llywelyn ab Owain, the nephew of Maredudd ap Bleddyn, ruler of the Welsh principality of Powys.[13] Besides Bridgnorth, Pain used his possession of Ludlow Castle to consolidate his power in the Welsh Marches.[40] During Henry's reign, the Welsh border was a zone of frequent raids and conflict between the Anglo-Normans and the Welsh.[41]

      The Gesta Stephani indicates that Pain, along with Miles of Gloucester, was a major landholder in the western part of England, and the pair managed to dominate justice in that region.[42] According to the document the two men "raised their power to such a pitch that from the Severn to the sea, all along the border between England and Wales, they involved everyone in litigation and forced services."[43] The later medieval writer Gerald of Wales called Miles and Pain "secretaries and privy councillors of the king".[43]

      The 1130 Pipe Roll noted that Pain was a royal justice in Staffordshire, Gloucestershire, and Pembroke.[13] Besides the ordinary court, Pain also heard cases relating to the forest law in those counties.[44] The Pipe Roll does not record Pain as sheriff in Shropshire, but this is likely due to the fact that the Shropshire returns for that year are missing from it.[32] Also in 1130, Pain was consulted by the king about the appointment to a vacant bishopric.[45] The Diocese of Hereford had been vacant since the death of Richard de Capella in August 1127,[46] and the king consulted with Pain and the constable of Hereford before accepting their candidate—Robert de Bethune, the prior of Llanthony Priory.[45] In 1132 Pain was present, along with his brother, at the Christmas court held by King Henry.[47] Subsequently Caus Castle, which was under Pain's control, was burnt by the Welsh in 1134.[3] As lord of Caus, Pain was involved in efforts to suppress Welsh raiding.[48] Although Pain held Caus, his title to the fortification was unclear, as it had earlier been held by Robert Corbet.[49]

      By the end of Henry's reign, Pain had witnessed over 60 royal charters for the king, spanning a period from around 1115 until 1135.[50] Although Pain witnessed a large number of royal documents, this activity took place mostly in England, as few of the documents he witnessed were drawn up while the king was in Normandy.[13] As a reward for his service, Henry gave Pain the lordships of Ewias Lacy[4] and Archenfield, both in Wales.[51]

      Under Stephen
      Following King Henry's death in 1135, the succession was disputed between the king's nephews—Stephen and his elder brother, Theobald II, Count of Champagne—and Henry's surviving legitimate child Matilda, usually known as the Empress Matilda because of her first marriage to the Holy Roman Emperor, Henry V. King Henry's only legitimate son, William, had died in 1120. After Matilda was widowed in 1125, she returned to her father, who married her to Geoffrey, Count of Anjou. All the magnates of England and Normandy were required to declare fealty to Matilda as Henry's heir, but when Henry I died in 1135, Stephen rushed to England and had himself crowned before either Theobald or Matilda could react. The Norman barons accepted Stephen as Duke of Normandy, and Theobald contented himself with his possessions in France. Matilda, though, was less sanguine, and secured the support of the Scottish king, David, who was her maternal uncle, and in 1138 also that of her half-brother, Robert, Earl of Gloucester, an illegitimate son of Henry I.[52][j]

      On Henry's death in December 1135, Pain attended the king's funeral. Pain was an early supporter of King Stephen,[13] although he was said initially to have been afraid to appear at Stephen's court for fear of being confronted by those he had oppressed.[54] Nevertheless Pain was with the new king by early January 1136, when he witnessed one of Stephen's documents, dated to around 4 January 1136, at Reading. By Easter, both Pain and his brother Eustace had formally submitted to the king.[55] Pain witnessed a royal charter at Oxford in April 1136.[13] The king rewarded the brothers by continuing to appoint them to judicial functions, and confirmed grants made by them to various religious houses.[55]

      After Henry's death, the Welsh attempted to drive out the Norman lords who had been extending their control into Wales during Henry's reign.[48] Pain was with King Stephen at the siege of Exeter from June to August 1136, early in the king's reign.[56] Crouch argues that Stephen did not at that time trust Pain, and kept him at the siege to more easily monitor his actions, and to prevent him from defecting to Matilda's cause.[56][57]

      Relations with the Church
      In 1119 Pope Callixtus II addressed letters to a group of Anglo-Norman landholders in the Welsh Marches, including Pain, accusing them of having appropriated the lands of the Diocese of Llandaff and ordering their return. Pain was among a group of nobles similarly accused by Pope Honorius II in 1128. Honorius once again ordered the nobles to restore to the Church lands they had confiscated.[58]

      Pain gave lands to Llanthony Priory, helping to establish the endowment of that monastic house,[59] although it is difficult to distinguish his gifts from those of Hugh de Lacy, as the monks of Llanthony grouped the gifts of both men together in their records.[60] In addition Pain granted lands to Gloucester Abbey, which had benefited from the generosity of his father and brother, as did his wife Sybil, together with other grants to her uncle the abbot. She also gave to two churches in Hereford: St Peter and St Guthlac.[61]

      Death and legacy
      On 10 July 1137 Pain was killed by a javelin blow to the head,[62] during an ambush by the Welsh[13][k] as he was leading a relief expedition to the garrison at Carmarthen.[62] He was buried in Gloucester Abbey,[13] following a funeral service conducted by Robert de Bethune. A number of barons from the Welsh Marches attended, including Miles of Gloucester.[63] Pain's widow continued to hold Ludlow Castle until the middle of 1139, when she was forced to surrender it to King Stephen.[64] Stephen then gave Sybil in marriage to Jocelin de Dinan, who consequently acquired Ludlow Castle through his new wife, setting up the background to Gilbert Lacy's attempts to seize Ludlow from Dinan on which the medieval Welsh romance work Fouke le Fitz Waryn is based.[65]

      Pain's heirs were his two daughters, Cecily and Agnes.[13] His heir male was his brother, Eustace fitzJohn.[5] The two daughters were married five times in total;[13] Cecily married three times but failed to produce any direct heirs.[66] Her first husband was Roger, the son of Miles of Gloucester.[13] Pain arranged Cecily and Roger's marriage. The marriage contract specified that Roger would inherit all of Pain's lands, but as result of the latter's death the marriage was not contracted until December 1137, when King Stephen confirmed the terms of the settlement.[23] The king also settled the bulk of the inheritance on Cecily, which led to disturbances and a minor war among disappointed claimants.[67] Agnes married Warin de Munchensy and after his death Haldenald de Bidun. She died after 1185, by which time she was described as a widow.[3]

      The historian W. E. Wrightman described Pain as a "second-class baron and first-class civil servant".[68]

      Notes
      The usage of the patronymic "fitz" denotes "son of". This makes Pain's name "Pain, son of John" and his father's name "John, son of Richard".[6]
      W. E. Wrightman wrote in his 1966 study of the Lacy family that Pain was a younger son, rather than the eldest son, but gives no reasoning for this belief.[8]
      The basis for this is that both Eustace and Pain held lands in Lincolnshire previously held by Mortimer. Pain also had Wigmore on top of the lands in Lincolnshire.[10] Eustace's son William de Vesci, held lands which were stated to have been "given to a predecessor of William in marriage".[11]
      19th-century accounts sometimes state that Pain's father John fitzRichard was the brother of Serlo de Burg, but later research has shown that John fitzRichard was the son of Richard, himself the son of Ranulf the Moneyer.[12]
      The lands of John fitzRichard were valued at about 26 pounds in Domesday Book in 1086.[18]
      Eustace inherited the manor of Saxlingham in Norfolk, but all the other lands in Norfolk held by John fitzRichard went to Pain. The manor of Elsenham in Essex, which Domesday Book recorded as held by John fitzRichard went to neither Pain nor Eustace and it is unknown to whom it descended.[19]
      Among other historians that accept Sybil as Hugh's daughter are Brock Holden[21] and W. E. Wrightman.[22]
      Waleran was a rebel captured in 1124 by Henry.[35]
      Castellans are the officials in charge of a castle.[36]
      Henry I had more than 20 illegitimate children.[53]
      Only John of Worcester gives the exact date. Likewise, he is the only chronicler who dates the event to 1137, with the Gesta Stephani, John of Hexham, and Richard of Hexham dating the event to 1136 without an exact date.[3] Most modern historians agree with John of Worcester's date.[3][5][13][32]

      Citations
      Green English Sheriffs p. 45
      Green English Sheriffs p. 72
      Cockayne Complete Peerage XII/2 pp. 270–271
      Green Government of England p. 15
      Keats-Rohan Domesday Descendants p. 919
      Coredon Dictionary of Medieval Terms p. 126
      Tout and Dalton "Eustace fitz John" Oxford Dictionary of National Biography
      Wrightman Lacy Family pp. 177–178
      Keats-Rohan Domesday People p. 284
      Remfry "Early Mortimers of Wigmore" Foundations pp. 404–406
      Quoted in Remfry "Early Mortimers of Wigmore" Foundations p. 405
      Cokayne Complete Peerage XII/2 Appendices pp. 7–11
      Mason "Pain fitz John" Oxford Dictionary of National Biography
      Keats-Rohan Domesday Descendants p. 920
      Dalton "Eustace Fitz John" Speculum p. 360
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      Dalton "Eustace Fitz John" Speculum p. 359
      Dalton "Eustace Fitz John" Speculum p. 359 footnote 4
      Green Government of England p. 251 footnote 209
      Green Henry I p. 133
      Holden Lords of the Central Marches pp. 17–18
      Wrightman Lacy Family p. 175
      Coplestone-Crow "Payn fitzJohn and Ludlow Castle" Shropshire History and Archaeology pp. 171–172
      Crouch Reign of King Stephen p. 79 footnote 21
      Coplestone-Crow "Payn fitzJohn and Ludlow Castle" Shropshire History and Archaeology p. 178
      Green Henry I p. 174
      Sanders English Baronies p. 95
      Coplestone-Crow "Payn fitzJohn and Ludlow Castle" Shropshire History and Archaeology p. 176
      Coplestone-Crow "From Foundation to Anarchy" Ludlow Castle p. 25
      Wrightman Lacy Family pp. 178–179
      Green Government of England pp. 30–31
      Green Government of England pp. 252–253
      Quoted in Dalton "Eustace Fitz John" Speculum p. 360
      Dalton "Eustace Fitz John" Speculum p. 361
      Hollister Henry I p. 313
      Coredon Dictionary of Medieval Terms p. 61
      Quoted in Dalton "Eustace Fitz John" Speculum p. 359
      Green Government of England p. 140
      Hollister "Anglo-Norman Succession Debate" Journal of Medieval History pp. 30–31
      Coplestone-Crow "From Foundation to Anarchy" Ludlow Castle p. 23
      Bartlett England Under the Norman and Angevin Kings p. 73
      Newman Anglo-Norman Nobility p. 103
      Quoted in Coplestone-Crow "Payn fitzJohn and Ludlow Castle" Shropshire History and Archaeology p. 179
      Stenton English Justice p. 63
      Brett English Church Under Henry I p. 105
      Fryde, et al. Handbook of British Chronology p. 250
      King King Stephen p. 36
      Chibnall Empress Matilda p. 77
      Coplestone-Crow "Payn fitzJohn and Ludlow Castle" Shropshire History and Archaeology p. 180
      Hollister "Anglo-Normal Succession Debate" Journal of Medieval History p. 38 footnote 40
      Green Aristocracy of Norman England p. 285
      Huscroft Ruling England pp. 71–73
      Hollister Henry I p. 41
      Green Henry I p. 115
      Dalton "Eustace Fitz John" Speculum p. 366
      Crouch Reign of King Stephen p. 57
      Crouch Reign of King Stephen p. 74
      Davies Book of Llandaf p. 47
      Davies Book of Llandaf p. 49
      Wrightman Lacy Family p. 183
      Cownie "Gloucester Abbey" England and Normandy p. 151
      Crouch Reign of King Stephen p. 59
      Marritt "Reeds Shaken by the Wind?" King Stephen's Reign p. 121
      Crouch Reign of King Stephen p. 102
      Coplestone-Crow "Payn fitzJohn and Ludlow Castle" Shropshire History and Archaeology p. 181
      Newman Anglo-Norman Nobility pp. 172–173
      Green Aristocracy of Norman England p. 381
      Wrightman Lacy Family p. 239

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