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| Name |
SAYER, Alyce |
| Birth |
1534 |
Hinwick, Bedfordshire, England |
| Christening |
1541 |
Hinwich, Podington, Bedfordshire, England |
| Gender |
Female |
| Death |
15 Apr 1567 |
Cranfield, Bedfordshire, England |
| Burial |
3 May 1567 |
Cranfield, Bedfordshire, England |
| WAC |
1 Jan 1943 |
| _TAG |
Reviewed on FS |
| Headstones |
Submit Headstone Photo |
| Person ID |
I31186 |
Joseph Smith Sr and Lucy Mack Smith |
| Last Modified |
19 Aug 2021 |
| Father |
SAYER, William , b. 1510, Hinwick, Bedfordshire, England Hinwick, Bedfordshire, Englandd. 1566, Hinwick, Bedfordshire, England (Age 56 years) |
| Mother |
SQUIRE, Alice , b. 1510, Hinwick, Bedfordshire, England Hinwick, Bedfordshire, Englandd. 2 Jun 1567, Podington, Bedfordshire, England (Age 57 years) |
| Marriage |
1528 |
Bedford, Bedfordshire, England |
| Notes |
- MARRIAGE: Also shown as Married Abt 1533 ~SEALING_SPOUSE: Also shown as SealSp 24 Apr 1947, SLAKE.
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| Family ID |
F14871 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Family 1 |
WHEELER, John , b. Abt 1533, Cranfield, Bedfordshire, England Cranfield, Bedfordshire, Englandd. 15 Apr 1567, Cranfield, Bedfordshire, England (Age 34 years) |
| Marriage |
1560 |
Bedford, Bedfordshire, England |
| Notes |
- MARRIAGE: Also shown as Married , Cranfield, Bedfordshire, England. ~SEALING_SPOUSE: Also shown as SealSp 21 May 1948, ARIZO.
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Children |
2 sons |
| | 1. WHEELER, John , b. 25 Feb 1563, Odell, Bedfordshire, England Odell, Bedfordshire, Englandd. 2 Dec 1643, Doswell, Bedfordshire, England (Age 80 years) | | + | 2. WHEELER, Thomas Sr , b. 2 Mar 1563, Cranfield, Bedfordshire, England Cranfield, Bedfordshire, Englandd. 9 Feb 1635, Cranfield, Bedfordshire, England (Age 71 years) | |
| Family ID |
F14866 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Last Modified |
24 Jan 2022 |
| Family 2 |
WEST, Robert , b. Abt 1537, Bedford, Bedfordshire, England Bedford, Bedfordshire, Englandd. 24 Apr 1559, Cranfield, Bedfordshire, England (Age 22 years) |
| Marriage |
Abt 1562 |
Bedford, Bedfordshire, England [1] |
| Notes |
- MARRIAGE: Also shown as Married 1560 ~SEALING_SPOUSE: Also shown as SealSp 23 Sep 1997, LANGE.
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| Family ID |
F17642 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Last Modified |
24 Jan 2022 |
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| Notes |
- She was NOT the daughter of William Sayre and Alice Squire, their daughter married Robert West. Please take the time to read life sketchs.
From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Sayre-37
Biography
John Wheeler was married to an Alice, as she was named in his will. Some think she was Alice Sayre, daughter of William Sayre and Alice Squire of Hinwick, Beds. As they already had a documented daughter Alice, some have speculated that they must have had two daughters named Alice. In the absence of a source for a marriage between John Wheeler and Alice Sayre more conservative researchers question that it was Alice Sayre who married John Wheeler and prefer to leave her as Alice
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The Will of William Sayre dated 15 Feb 1562/3 mentions his daughters Alice and Agnes:
"I beqth to Alyce west & Agnes makernes my doughters to eche of them half a quarter of malte It'"
As you can see, neither daughter was married to a Wheeler.
The Will of Alice Squire Sayre dated 20 Apr. 1567 and was proved 2 Jun 1567. No Wheelers are mentioned! But she does mention her daughter who was married to Robert West, which would have been the daughter Alice mentioned in her husband's will!
"WILL OF ALICE SAYRE "In Dei nomie amen the xxth day of Aprill 1567 and in the nynth yere of the Reinye of o'r sov'eigne lady Elyzabethe by the grace of god of England ffrance and Ireland Quene defender of the faythe etc I Alice sayer of hinwicke within the p'isshe of Podyngton in the Contie of bedf' widowe late wyfe of willm sayer of hinwicke aforsayd husbandman deceassed being holle of mynd & in good & p'fete memori laud & Praise be unto almyte god doo make & ordeyne this my p'sent testament conteyned herein my laste wyll in man' & fowrme as ffolowth fyrst comend my soule unto almighte god my macare and redemer & my bodye to be buried in the churche yeard of podyngton aforsayd Itm I bequeth & geve unto the poore of the sayd p'ise VId. Itm I bequethe to the Reparcion of the sayd churche or to the mainteans of the belles there IIs. Itm I bequethe unto my dowetur (daughter) alse west wife of Robte weste & unto him the sayd Robt towe pore of shets thone of flaxe thother payre harden half a quarter of malte one candlestyke one late basone twoe pewter platers & one table clothe. Itm I bequethe unto wyllm sayer the yonger & unto Robt sayer chyldren of wyllm sayer the elder unto John west & gorgs west chyldren of the sayd Robt west & unto ev'y one of the sayd chyldren a hogrell. Itm I bequethe unto wyllm makernes the yonger towe hogegerells Itm I bequethe unto ev'y one of my godchyldren one stryke of barle or XIId. of mone to be at the eleccon of the executor Itm I bequethe unto wyllm pickerying wyllm peere & allce pickering a hogerell or a lambe unto ev'y of the persons laste before Rehersed Itm I geve & bequethe unto Thomas my sonne all the reste of my sheppe & all oth'r my shepe wheresoew they pasture or be (except before bequethed) thre mylche beassts namely brockell old chery and youg chery one yong mare one gret parre & two pylobers tow quarters of malte VI payers of shets on table cloth a towel and IIII platers all the Residewe of my goods not bequethed my detts payd & funerall expeses discharged I geve & bequethe unto wyllm sayer my sonne whom I constitute & make executor of this my sayd testamet & laste wyll unto who I geve & bequeth halfe a quarter of malte for his paynstaking to se all things done accordyng to the teno and true meanyng herof witnesses of this laste wyll francis wodmansey vicar Edmond Squier wyllyiam Sayear wyllm abbot agnes squier a'ctor cumultis allyis"
John Wheeler and Alyce (Alice or Alys) Sayer (Sayre) were married about 1560 in Bedfordshire, England.
Their children
John Wheeler born about 1563 in Odell, Bedfordshire.
Thomas Wheeler baptized March 2, 1565 in Maulden, Bedfordshire.
Alice was the daughter of William Sayre and his wife Alice Squire. She was born in Odell, Bedfordshire, England in 1541. About 1558, she married John Wheeler of Cranfield, Bedfordshire, probably in Odell. John and Alice had two sons, Thomas and John. Alice died in April of 1567 and was buried in the churchyard of St. Peter and St. Paul’s Church in Cranfield on April 15. John died within a day of Alice.
Info provided by Ken Smith
I question that Alice Sayre who allegedly married John Wheeler was the daughter of William and Alice (Squire) Sayre. Yes, they had a daughter Alice, but in her father's 1563 will and her mother's 1567 will she is referred to as Alice WEST, husband Robert WEST and children John and George WEST. Two different Alices.
Info provide by David Cooper.
Alice, the daughter of William and Alice was named as Alice West in her father's will dated 1563, in her mother's will dated 1567 and in her brother's will of 1581. She wasn't the Alice who was the wife of John Wheeler.
Provided by David Cooper
May 24, 2018
Or if not two Alice's then maybe two husbands.
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- [S989] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical Index(R), downloaded 17 Sep 2009 (Reliability: 3).
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